Beth Sarim

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  Is Watchtower totally off base on Armageddon?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.

  my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.

  but steve greg has armageddon down pat.

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  Beth Sarim

  Armageddon is fictional.

  Its not real..

  Its only exploited to scare & manipulate people.
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  Is Watchtower totally off base on Armageddon?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.

  my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.

  but steve greg has armageddon down pat.

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  Revelation 16:16. "Harmageddon" is a local place in Israel.

  If you gotta bible,,, please read that scripture. And the corresponding scriptures.

  We can put "Armageddon"",, to bed. It aint coming.
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  Is Watchtower totally off base on Armageddon?

  by Vanderhoven7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to me it is quite evident that the gt spoken about in matthew 24, mark 13 and luke 21 is a one time, non-repeatable localized event resulting in the destruction of jerusalem and the temple followed by the dispersion of surviving jews throughout the nations.. however, what is not so clear to most is that the gt of revelation deals with the same event.

  my understanding is that the gb of jehovah witnesses has no clue as to how to interpret the apocalyptic messages found both in the synoptics and revelation.

  but steve greg has armageddon down pat.

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  Armageddon is not an event.

  Its a place ,,Harmageddon

  In Rev 16.
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  Witnesses after Covid shut down are increasing their calls around my neighborhood

  by wozza in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hi all , i just had another call by a an elderly jw ,let's call him ian.. only about 3 months ago i had a young jw call and trying to talk to him i had to tone it down a bit because he did'nt seem so theocratically bright as he only offered a tract and not much else , and i've had others call since covid.. so it seems around here they are making regular calls but not like back in the day when i used to auxillary pioneer where we would go over this turf every 1 to 3 weeks in the 80's.. but back to my caller ian ,on his own , but out with a group of jw's he was quick to get around the pleasantries and and so i interrupted him tactfully to slow him down.

  started with a bit of my history easing into the fact that i had my first contact with jw's with my soon to be mother-in -law who was an invalided jw ,we had many good talks about her beliefs in the early 70's.. at this point he jumps in and wants to know if i would want a study again because i told him that i once did a study with jw's back.

  i carefully steered him into telling me about those days ,what was he was doing back then.

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  These ""apathy"" carts,, just the way the Borg reinvents itself.
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  A Jehovah's Witness family's excellent Letter of Resignation trending on exjw Reddit today

  by Balaamsass2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i got an email notice today on this excellent letter of resignation from a german family that is trending on reddit.

  i thought i would share it here if anyone is so inclined to write one.

  for those with pimi jw family and jw business connections, it may not be wise to share such a letter, but i imagine it must be very freeing to send such a letter.

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  An entire family,,,wow.
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  Listen obey and get vaxed

  by JohnR1975 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the truth is most active jws would probably agree that most of the teachings are not right, the new thing is that we just don’t know.. the governing body now say they get things wrong and make mistakes as they are not inspired and not infallible.

  yet they are still to be trusted no matter what?.

  they are not trusted.

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  a watcher,, 2 posts ago....

  The GB doesn't make that mistake again.,,,, they've proven time & time again they can willfully blindly paint themselves into a corner.🙂
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  AWAKE MAGAZIBE'S SURPRISING NEW DIRECTION

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/ze4q_7_-uo4?si=l0xe0drc5a9urhyt.

  so there was a time the awake magazine was printed every 15 days but now since jehovah is blessing them so much the magazine is printed once a year, and here you have the 1st edition for the year , which is nothing more than an informatial of how good of a charity they are to their local community.

  so we read in the following box: what we are doing firstly, jehovah’s witnesses promote a balanced, healthy lifestyle.

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  Yes.

  Raymond Frantz is totally correct.

  The Borgs main bragging feature was the amount of printed material released. Whether it was books,brochures,, magazines whatever...

  The Borg is definitely pivoting to online & real estate,,,,they have to,, they have no choice. Its a completely new era.

  It doesn't clearly show the demise however of the Borg .....
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  AWAKE MAGAZIBE'S SURPRISING NEW DIRECTION

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/ze4q_7_-uo4?si=l0xe0drc5a9urhyt.

  so there was a time the awake magazine was printed every 15 days but now since jehovah is blessing them so much the magazine is printed once a year, and here you have the 1st edition for the year , which is nothing more than an informatial of how good of a charity they are to their local community.

  so we read in the following box: what we are doing firstly, jehovah’s witnesses promote a balanced, healthy lifestyle.

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  ""It is incomprehensible to think somebody would let their child die.""

  This is what happens with mind control. You do things that are totally unnatural.

  Mind control. Corrupt and dangerous.
  
  
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  WHEN WILL THE ANOINTED BE TAKEN TO HEAVEN

  by raymond frantz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://youtu.be/sptboe8_kuc?si=cnb837qqdlm1glx0.

  this is a question that has preoccupied the minds of the governing body " when will the last anointed be taken up to heaven?

  " when did this nonsense begin ?

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  "Invisibly"".

  The annointed will be taken to heaven "invisibly".

  Before Armageddon. "Invisibly".
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  WTS 2024 Annual Business Meeting ...

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ... is just three weeks from this saturday.

  the org has been tight-lipped, really, successfully secret about advance info on these in recent years,.

  now that these relatively recent changes on dress and grooming, reporting fs time, judicial matters, etc.

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  What will they demand next?

  "Sell everything you have. Give us your money."

  With that loyalty bit,,,always ramped right up.